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#1693064 - 11/13/17 01:20 PM Dommes, what do you value more?
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Masochism or obedience?

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#1693071 - 11/13/17 03:22 PM Re: Dommes, what do you value more? [Re: Soapy]
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Definitely obedience.
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#1693095 - 11/13/17 07:08 PM Re: Dommes, what do you value more? [Re: Soapy]
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This is a trick question. Why would they alienate any part of their constituency?

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#1693096 - 11/13/17 07:14 PM Re: Dommes, what do you value more? [Re: Komodo]
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Originally Posted By: Komodo
This is a trick question. Why would they alienate any part of their constituency?


Where as I agree with this statement, ultimately obedience would win because it is the gateway to the upgrades I can make to any slave, for any purpose.
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#1693115 - 11/13/17 10:41 PM Re: Dommes, what do you value more? [Re: Miss_Isobel_Devi]
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It is difficult to only choose one, both are valued equally.
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#1693127 - 11/14/17 12:45 AM Re: Dommes, what do you value more? [Re: Soapy]
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Obedience for sure. One can always build up their pain threshold and learn to become a masochist.

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#1693149 - 11/14/17 09:57 AM Re: Dommes, what do you value more? [Re: Soapy]
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I originally misunderstood your question and I wonder if I was the only one. I thought that the question was masochism or submissiveness not masochism or obedience, because these are valid choices.

A guy asking for a session without guaranteeing obedience would be like a professional mistress not guaranteeing safety. There is an implicit contract after all. Was this what you meant or you really meant obedience?

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#1693172 - 11/14/17 05:18 PM Am I the only one? [Re: Soapy]
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I am not really a masochist (I don't enjoy pain), and I am not obedient at all.
What I look for in a session is to be physically (with pain) coerced into obedience. It is the power dynamics that I find intriguing, trying to resist yet being forced to submit.
Plain obedience - I find that boring.

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#1693176 - 11/14/17 06:15 PM Re: Dommes, what do you value more? [Re: Soapy]
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Originally Posted By: Soapy

Masochism or obedience?


Obedience.

While I truly value a hard core masochist, you can't force someone to be something they are not.

Also, if someone was a total masochist but disobedient about it (ie "I'm a maso but I ain't no sub) that would piss Me off. I have experienced a hand full of masos who totally topped from the bottom.
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#1693209 - 11/15/17 06:58 AM Re: Am I the only one? [Re: international]
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There is a possibility I misinterpret what you say, but I think that what you like is to be broken, and forced to do or say one particular thing you are resisting.

But I do not really believe that in the process of getting there you are not obedient. If your mistress wants to handcuff you would you resist? If she tells you to face the wall you wouldn't? If you resist things like this you could session only with Ve Ve Lane or other world class fighter. I find difficult to believe that you expect a mistress to have to overpower you.

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